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No matter what White Sox — or Andrew Baggarly — say, San Francisco Giants did not beat Chicago White Sox on a ‘technicality’

Chicago White Sox catcher Tyler Flowers, right, reaches to tag San Francisco Giants' Gregor Blanco, who was originally ruled out at home but then ruled safe after review, during the seventh inning of a baseball game in San Francisco, Wednesday, Aug. 13, 2014. (AP Photo/Jeff Chiu)

Chicago White Sox catcher Tyler Flowers, right, reaches to tag San Francisco Giants’ Gregor Blanco, who was originally ruled out at home but then ruled safe after review, during the seventh inning of a baseball game in San Francisco, Wednesday, Aug. 13, 2014. (AP Photo/Jeff Chiu)

During last offseason, Major League Baseball wanted to implement a rule that would prevent home-plate collisions. The rule would be simple and straightforward.

The catcher is not allowed to block the plate. The runner is not allowed to blow up the catcher. The only time home-plate collisions would happen was when the flight of the ball drew the catcher into the runner’s path, making any collision accidental and unavoidable.

But that wasn’t good enough for old-school catchers and managers. They said “How can we teach our catchers how not to block the plate in just six weeks of spring training when that’s how they’ve been playing the position forever (forever meaning in their pro careers, because blocking the plate was not part of the game they played in Little League, high school or college)?”

So MLB waffled a bit, adding a line into the new rule that catchers could still block the plate, if they had possession of the ball. And a can of worms was opened.

Given that sliver of light, old-school managers did not worry about teaching their catchers about where best to position themselves to be in compliance with the new rule. They simply told their catchers to play the position as they have always played it, and make MLB rule that they were doing it incorrectly.

In the first half of the season, MLB gave catchers the benefit of the doubt. The onus was on the runner to avoid contact. Catchers kept blocking the plate like they always had.

But then runners started to complain. Was there a new rule or wasn’t there one? And MLB started to listen. So after the All-Star break, we started to see a swing in how these plays were being ruled on replay.

If the catcher was in the runners path without the ball and didn’t give the runner a path to the plate, the runner would be ruled safe. It didn’t matter how far ahead of the runner that the ball arrived to the plate.

In short, if teams weren’t going to get their catchers to position themselves correctly in compliance with the new rule, MLB was going to do it for them.

And if you’re on the wrong end of one of these calls, you don’t like it. Just like White Sox manager Robin Ventura found himself in when umpires overturned a call in which the Giants’ Gregor Blanco was thrown out at the plate in the seventh inning on Tuesday.

The play resulted in a 1-1 tie, and the Giants went on to score six more times in the inning en route to a 7-1 win. And Ventura was livid.

“You look at the spirit of the rule of what they’re trying to do and what it’s actually doing, and it’s a joke,” said Ventura, who was ejected for arguing and kicking dirt on the plate after a review that lasted nearly five minutes. “We obviously disagreed with it, and we got hosed today.”

Ventura continued: “They don’t take into consideration that the guy was out by a longshot.”

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! At what point did Ventura start to disagree with this rule. If you rewind back to Tuesday night’s game, Ventura found himself on the opposite end of a similar play.

In the 10th inning, Chicago’s Jordan Danks were ruled out at the plate on a tag by Buster Posey. Ventura came out to have the play to review to see if Posey blocked Danks’ path to the plate, even though Danks was out by a longshot.

One problem, however. The review showed that Posey didn’t block the plate, that he did leave Danks a pathway to the plate.

And why is this? Well, it’s because that’s how the Giants have taught their catchers to position themselves on plays on the plate. They instruct their catchers to get out IN FRONT OF home plate, between home plate and the pitchers mound, field the throw, then apply a sweep tag. That’s what Posey did.

Now fast-forward to Wednesday afternoon. White Sox catcher Tyler Flowers did not get out in front of home plate. He stood right over it. And when he went to field the throw from first baseman Jose Abreu, Flowers left leg clearly blocked off the entire plate from the oncoming Blanco. Flowers even admitted this much, but said that’s not the point.

Except it IS the point.

Some have said the Giants won Wednesday on a “technicality” including CSN Bay Area’s Andrew Baggarly, who called the ruling “lasso-sized legal loophole.”

This is what Flowers said: “I don’t think anybody has an understanding of this rule,. That’s not the purpose of this rule. The purpose of this rule is to prevent a situation like Posey had. It’s not when a guy is out by 30 feet. ‘Oh, he blocked the plate?’ That had no impact on him being safe or out. And there’s no clarification on that.”

There. Flowers just proved my point, even if he didn’t intend to, when he said “this rule is to prevent a situation like Posey had. It’s not when a guy is out by 30 feet.”

Flowers was referring to the Scott Cousins play — I call it the Cousins play because the responsibility for that collision was completely on Cousins — that prematurely Posey’s season in May 2011.

Here are three irrefutable points about the Cousins/Posey play.

  • Posey was NOT blocking the plate on that play.
  • Posey DID leave Cousins a lane to the plate.
  • Cousins did believe he would be out by 30 feet. He felt that from where right fielder Nate Schierholtz was throwing the ball, Cousins would be out easily. His only recourse was to try to dislodge the ball from Posey. As it turned out, Posey got caught with a short hop that he didn’t handle cleanly.

And that’s the point of the new rule. MLB wants catchers to leave runners a lane, so they don’t feel like their only course of action is collide with the catcher. And leaving a lane is all determined by where the catcher sets up to receive the throw.

So here’s another question for Flowers. If Blanco was going to be out by a longshot, why was Flowers even blocking the plate in the first place?

“I had two seconds to get from behind home plate to catch (and) make a tag, and I’m supposed to be able to make sure I don’t block the plate, catch the ball and make the tag, all within two seconds on an infield dribbler?” Flowers said. “That’s not realistic. That play doesn’t make any sense.”

But it is realistic, if it’s a play that you have been trained on doing correctly. Buster Posey had time to do it correctly Tuesday night because he’s been trained to do that. Flowers, likely because the White Sox have not made it a priority, appeared as if he hasn’t been trained on this.

So MLB gave him, and the White Sox, a valuable lesson. And they got what they deserved.

And that’s not a technicality.


Spring training: Giants 9, White Sox 9 (tie) … bullpen springs a leak

San Francisco Giants pitcher Madison Bumgarner delivers a pitch against the Chicago White Sox during the first inning of a spring training baseball game, Monday, Feb. 25, 2013, in Scottsdale, Ariz. (AP Photo/Matt York)

San Francisco Giants pitcher Madison Bumgarner delivers a pitch against the Chicago White Sox during the first inning of a spring training baseball game, Monday, Feb. 25, 2013, in Scottsdale, Ariz. (AP Photo/Matt York)

All we can say about Monday’s spring training 9-9 tie against the Chicago White Sox is … get used to it, Giants fans.

The Giants blew a 9-0 lead as the White Sox rallied for seven runs in the eighth inning.

With the Giants set to lose a large chunk of its bullpen to the World Baseball Classic (Jeremy Affeldt, Santiago Casilla, Jose Mijares, Sergio Romo), the Giants loaded its spring training roster with pitchers. So a lot of young pitchers will get a chance to show what they can do — and what they can’t.

Through five innings Monday, the Giants were rolling to a 9-0 lead. Madison Bumgarner threw two scoreless innings, and Dan Otero, Romo and Michael Kickham followed with a scoreless inning each, marking 15 consecutive scoreless innings by Giants relievers this spring.

It wouldn’t last through a 16th inning.

In the sixth, the Giants sent in Chris Heston, who was thought to be near the top of the list of possible call-up candidates this season if the Giants need another starter. Heston had a solid season for Double-A Richmond in 2012.

On Monday, Heston gave up a single, hit a batter, then gave up a two-out, two-run triple to cut the Giants’ lead to 9-2.

After a scoreless seventh by Jake Dunning, the Giants called on Fabio Castillo to pitch the eighth.

Who is Fabio Castillo, you say. Well, that’s what we said, too.

Castillo, 24, was signed as a minor league free agent in November after seven seasons in the Rangers’ system. He went 4-1 with a 3.54 ERA between Double-A and Triple-A last season. His 14 games for Triple-A Round Rock marked his first stop above Double-A in his career.

On Monday, the White Sox greeted Castillo with a single, out, single and RBI double. After a walk loaded the bases and a visit from the pitching coach, Castillo walked in the second run of the inning.

That led manager Bruce Bochy to call on his son Brett for the first time his spring. Brett Bochy earned a spring training invite after going 7-3 with 14 saves and a 2.53 ERA for Double-A Richmond.

From there, the Hollywood script writers must have gone to get a beer, because Chicago’s Josh Bell greet Brett Bochy with a ground-rule double to score two runs. The next batter, Seth Loman, lauched a three-run homer to right.

“You’re nervous for him, and that probably goes with being a dad,” Bruce Bochy said. “I put him in a tough spot but he’s a tough kid. He’ll be fine.”

After a walk, and a coaching visit, Bochy settled down to end the inning with a strikeout and a forceout to third.

“Once I’m out there, the focus is on pitching,” Brett Bochy said when asked about his father handing him the ball. “Being the first time, I noticed it, but once I toed the rubber, it’s just like any other game.”


  • OF Cole Gillespie continued his early push to become this year’s Gregor Blanco (a player signed to provide organizational depth but pushes his way onto the roster with a strong spring) by going 2 for 3 with two doubles, two runs and two RBI. We like Cole. He’s from Oregon State. Go Beavs!!
  • Hey look! Marco Scutaro is putting the bat on the ball again. He went 2 for 3 with an RBI.
  • Pablo Sandoval made his third straight start at 3B. He went 1 for 3 with a double and run.
  • Hunter Pence had a triple, walk and two runs scored in three trips to the plate.


There were times late last season, when Pence would get behind in the count and had two strikes on him, you just knew he was going to swing and miss at a pitch down and away off the plate.

But as the postseason advanced, there was something about Pence that you just had to like, even when the sabermetricians told you not to. The Chronicle’s Bruce Jenkins captures that here.


Tim Lincecum makes his spring debut against the Dodgers in Glendale, Ariz., at 12:05 p.m. Lincecum is known for getting bounced around early in spring as he refines his mechanics, so it’s doubtful we’ll be able to draw any conclusions from this start.